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He also inherited a team that went 17-18-1

10/31/2018 5:48:21 PM

By: NYTrojan

the previous 4 years, whereas Helton inherited a squad that went 39-18 in the 4.25 years before he took over. There also weren't any UNLVs on the schedule back in McKay's day.

Records today are NOT comparable to records back then. They just aren't. The game has changed a little bit in the nearly 60 years that passed since McKay's first years. Shocking I know, but context matters.

John McKay had 6 4 losses or more seasons (views: 234) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 03:38 PM
- My Favorite Argument (views: 104) -- Hoss (66.214.168.9) -- 10/31/18 11:34 PM
  - It’s a tired and lame argument. (views: 65) -- TheLegendOfAugustWest (76.187.1.87) -- 11/01/18 07:27 AM
- And 4 NCs. *** (views: 36) -- TheLegendOfAugustWest (76.187.1.87) -- 10/31/18 09:13 PM
  - Yeah, I guess he forgot that LOL (views: 27) -- SCSmashmouth (76.89.161.92) -- 11/01/18 02:36 PM
  - The Legend, how can he get any... (views: 26) -- ElTrojan (45.50.70.253) -- 11/01/18 02:17 PM
- Thanks USC66! Another good post... (views: 57) -- ElTrojan (45.50.70.253) -- 10/31/18 06:41 PM
- You need therapy (views: 90) -- USCoolio (68.4.173.165) -- 10/31/18 06:00 PM
  - Idiot yes fing idiot no*** (views: 34) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 06:58 PM
    - well...at least he was half right * (views: 23) -- Contrarian (112.211.249.95) -- 11/01/18 03:55 AM
- The Epitome of a Non Sequitur (views: 113) -- Bobopolis (68.5.236.42) -- 10/31/18 05:51 PM
  - Did you ever meet John McKay? (views: 51) -- Contrarian (112.211.249.95) -- 11/01/18 04:35 AM
    - Craig Fertig was his designated driver (views: 31) -- San Clemente (68.101.116.220) -- 11/01/18 08:16 PM
      - Pat was at home with JK... (views: 35) -- Contrarian (112.211.249.95) -- 11/02/18 05:09 AM
        oh please. (views: 21) -- San Clemente (68.101.116.220) -- 11/02/18 10:06 AM
  - If that aint the truth. (views: 57) -- TheLegendOfAugustWest (76.187.1.87) -- 10/31/18 09:16 PM
  - You don’t get it you guys would have fired (views: 55) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 06:54 PM
- But Mckays teams didn't look lost (views: 109) -- Old Hickory Trojan (24.176.159.251) -- 10/31/18 05:35 PM
  - He also inherited a team that went 17-18-1 (views: 93) -- NYTrojan (199.106.103.56) -- 10/31/18 05:48 PM
    - USC was 8-2 the year before McKay (views: 80) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 06:55 PM
      - By that logic, 1996 had a ton of talent (views: 62) -- NYTrojan (70.95.16.74) -- 10/31/18 08:58 PM
      - You won that won (views: 79) -- Java (68.187.30.36) -- 10/31/18 07:39 PM
        Here is what happened don clark was the (views: 68) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 08:55 PM
        Also USC UCLA and Washington people (views: 60) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 09:00 PM
        Lose to your rivals .... (views: 56) -- observer1 (73.95.106.56) -- 10/31/18 07:56 PM
        Obviously 66 likes to leave out (views: 48) -- Old Hickory Trojan (24.176.159.251) -- 10/31/18 08:53 PM
- Is Clay an "infant" for firing tee & Calloway? (views: 76) -- the909trojan (38.140.104.154) -- 10/31/18 04:56 PM
- Take two Geritol, lie down (views: 72) -- Wac12 (75.80.154.154) -- 10/31/18 04:55 PM
  - It’s Valium Wacky not geritol*** (views: 38) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 06:59 PM
    - For you it's Geritol** (views: 25) -- Wac12 (75.80.154.154) -- 10/31/18 07:17 PM
- He also won multiple NC's (views: 74) -- GO TROJANS (65.129.79.160) -- 10/31/18 04:07 PM
  - GO TROJANS, how does he win any NC... (views: 24) -- ElTrojan (45.50.70.253) -- 11/01/18 02:49 PM
  - Go you would have fired after his first two (views: 65) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 04:20 PM
    - Right again USC66. Thanks!* (views: 36) -- ElTrojan (45.50.70.253) -- 10/31/18 06:42 PM
    - Ask clay why he demoted tee after 1 1/2 seasons (views: 60) -- the909trojan (38.140.104.154) -- 10/31/18 05:04 PM
    - He was 36-23-2 (views: 77) -- Java (71.83.135.206) -- 10/31/18 04:40 PM
      - I suppose you either never saw (views: 67) -- Old Hickory Trojan (24.176.159.251) -- 10/31/18 05:33 PM
        He never followed SC until he (views: 34) -- TheLegendOfAugustWest (76.187.1.87) -- 11/01/18 07:21 AM
- Do you think the team is improving? (views: 119) -- NYTrojan (199.106.103.56) -- 10/31/18 03:43 PM
  - My comments were not about Helton they (views: 97) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 04:10 PM
    - No, we saw he was failing from the get go (views: 94) -- NYTrojan (199.106.103.56) -- 10/31/18 04:17 PM
      - Do you realize how stupid your comments are? (views: 83) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 04:28 PM
        That's the definition of infantile (views: 61) -- Troy Story. (4.71.141.130) -- 10/31/18 05:08 PM
        "When you resort to insults (views: 75) -- NYTrojan (199.106.103.56) -- 10/31/18 04:30 PM
        I was insulting your comments not you (views: 51) -- USC66 (76.220.54.106) -- 10/31/18 06:57 PM
        Your exact quote (views: 46) -- NYTrojan (70.95.16.74) -- 10/31/18 08:45 PM
        Dimentia settling in.* (views: 39) -- Tom Avacado (184.53.16.4) -- 10/31/18 04:43 PM
        Down goes Frazier. Down goes Frazier (views: 73) -- samcasino (108.185.82.244) -- 10/31/18 04:42 PM
        Poor old IQ66 got his ass whipped (views: 48) -- ATLBRUIN (24.30.15.191) -- 10/31/18 11:00 PM
        Ever think that the obvious has risen (views: 67) -- Torpedoman (107.185.37.154) -- 10/31/18 05:58 PM

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