Years ago when I use to pretend I was an alpha dog my girlfriend on my birthday took me down to the San Pedro harbor where she had chartered one of those dinky little three person helicopters. They would fly low enough over the terminal federal prison that you could see the inmates giving us the finger or "mooning" us. After that the pilot then when out to the pacific and we flew the shoreline including fly up small coves with a gut wrenching pull up to a stall and kick the helicopter around to recover on the out bound leg. I have been in many military aircraft doing crazy things but nothing ever compared to my birthday joy ride, thank you, you bitch.
There no need for them to be there. And you don't put innocent lives at risk for "training." Given that Russian skaters died on that plane, one should question if there is more to this.
I’ve read some comments from pilot and military personnel. They are saying this is real training and it’s like learning to drive on the freeway. You need to do it this way in order to become an expert.
Exactly, there are "sky highways" with exits and interchanges, etc, all established by the FAA or other agencies that keep different aircraft in different routes and areas. You can break from them, if you have permission, but have to call it in and ask so they can make everyone around know so stuff like this doesn't happen. There are areas that are open, but all airports and major population centers have these rules in place for aircraft.
While that may be true this area has 3 busy airports which makes it the one area where you should not be running training exercises. This helicopter should not have been there. Period. And now we know why. Add to that the air controllers are not only understaffed but suffering from DEI. This was an accident waiting to happen.
The heliport in Kauai was on the south side of the airport. So I bet it’s common. Hangers Parking. Didn’t even occur to me as we took off or landed but yeah we took off and totally cut across some space to onto the other side of the island. I’m guessing the pilot went around and didn’t cut across. But we didn’t elevate to full altitude in place. We moved.
We also generally flew lower than planes do. I’d guess most of the trip we were maybe 500-2000 feet up?
You say you go to Alaska a lot Java, have you ever done a helicopter up to the Mendenhall Glacier out of Juneau? That is the most ball-dropping ride ever. You take off from the Heliport on the far end of the airport and just follow up the side of the mountain right near it, it is cool, you are not very high off the ground, you can see animals and stuff in the forest below, but when you get to the peak of that mountain the other side is just a sheer drop into the glacier valley, you go from about 200 feet to a few thousand in like a second, and the wind rips up that thing and they basically just nose dive a bit down towards the path for the landing spot on he ice across the valley. Was not expecting it, my nuts went into my stomach and I almost horked. Kid who was pilot was like 21 and working the summer before he went back To Oregon for his Senior year. I would have walked back if I could.
I’ve been twice. Didn’t thinking said a lot but yeah. I’ve done that trip. That’s the glacier where you stand on those cracks and it’s like flourescent blue all the way down. I think o was more worried about the glacier. That was amazing
I don’t remember the ride being scary. That might have been my first helicopter ride and I might have just stayed in the middle seat or looked straight ahead. I don’t have any pics from it so probably.
Two stories you reminded me of. 1) in Kauai the pilot was a girl. Kid. And I think there are only about 100 female helicopter pilots in the country and this company had 2. She saw my usc shirt and said oh yeah I went there. On a la crosse scholarship. I’m thinking I didn’t remember usc having a women’s lacrosse team. Apparently they play on the women’s soccer field that used to be my fraternity house. My bed was right where one of the goals is now. Far more scoring there now than when it was mine. So I ask casually when she was there. She says 2014 and I’m quickly doing the math in my head to figure how old this child is. I’ll include a pic from that trip here and see if I can find the one where you see my jeans and me hanging out the side of the thing. You get used to the fear lol.
2 in Alaska on the trip you mention we went again. Tried to repeat the chopper tour. We get there and they cancel it. Bad weather. I negotiate. Plead. Threaten. Just about have a tantrum. Tell them it’s fine. I’ll sign a waiver. Came all this way. Eventually we go on a sled dog tour and meet sled dog puppies. Made the kids happy but I was pissed. I swear. 2-3 weeks after we get back? I read about a helicopter crash. Tourist company. Same tour you and I did. Blew up everyone aboard. Killed 5-6. Bad weather. I felt a little sheepish.
Human errors by the control tower and helicopter pilots. The higher ups have mucho explanation. Yeah, helicopter on training practice no business at an airport air space or area.
God bless all that died. Let us all say some prayers...
Just heard that the Helicopter Pilot was a Transgender who had become even more unhappy about Trump and his EO's...also that the FAA under Obama and Biden besides the DEI implemented an Immunity clause where in the past if someone working for the FAA screwed up they would be de-certified and go through re-training but after the Immunity Clause was passed would no longer require being re-trained or de-certified add that to the other stuff we've learned about DEI and it's surprising anyone can surviive flying commericially...
Years ago when I use to pretend I was an alpha dog my girlfriend on my birthday took me down to the San Pedro harbor where she had chartered one of those dinky little three person helicopters. They would fly low enough over the terminal federal prison that you could see the inmates giving us the finger or "mooning" us. After that the pilot then when out to the pacific and we flew the shoreline including fly up small coves with a gut wrenching pull up to a stall and kick the helicopter around to recover on the out bound leg. I have been in many military aircraft doing crazy things but nothing ever compared to my birthday joy ride, thank you, you bitch.
The trannies and negroes working in the control towers told the helicopter to fly into the jet's path.
There no need for them to be there. And you don't put innocent lives at risk for "training." Given that Russian skaters died on that plane, one should question if there is more to this.
if the helicopter had stayed in it's lane much closer to the east riverbank and at 200' or lower
there would have been no story
I’ve read some comments from pilot and military personnel. They are saying this is real training and it’s like learning to drive on the freeway. You need to do it this way in order to become an expert.
Don’t shoot the messenger 🤦♂️
The heliport in Kauai was on the south side of the airport. So I bet it’s common. Hangers Parking. Didn’t even occur to me as we took off or landed but yeah we took off and totally cut across some space to onto the other side of the island. I’m guessing the pilot went around and didn’t cut across. But we didn’t elevate to full altitude in place. We moved.
We also generally flew lower than planes do. I’d guess most of the trip we were maybe 500-2000 feet up?
Human errors by the control tower and helicopter pilots. The higher ups have mucho explanation. Yeah, helicopter on training practice no business at an airport air space or area.
God bless all that died. Let us all say some prayers...
Just heard that the Helicopter Pilot was a Transgender who had become even more unhappy about Trump and his EO's...also that the FAA under Obama and Biden besides the DEI implemented an Immunity clause where in the past if someone working for the FAA screwed up they would be de-certified and go through re-training but after the Immunity Clause was passed would no longer require being re-trained or de-certified add that to the other stuff we've learned about DEI and it's surprising anyone can surviive flying commericially...