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Objective q: how did SC d and the turnovers impact win

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I didn't see the first half so wondered how many tds came off turnovers and blocked punt?

If SC had these breaks all year would it have resulted in a better record or was it all CWs fault for freelancing?

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15 Comments

tdaniels

Dec 29, 2023

Unless I read it wrong, SC was +21 in 2022 and -1 in 2023 for turnover margin. In the bowl game we were plus 2.

firenze5

Dec 29, 2023

A turnover and a blocked kick gave us two short field td's that Moss/USC took full advantage of. The other 4 td's were long drives. This was a team win with a ton of young players who hardly played at all this year, including 3 freshman receivers, Lemon, Jakobe Lane and Duece. And it was a coming out party for Miller Moss. CLR knows what he has with him. This is his 3rd year in the program,two years left. The kids going to be a first round pick in the NFL draft in two years. He wasn't Chuck n dunk , he was going downfield. In the td pass to Hudson, he had a 6 inch window to throw too. On one of the td passes to Lane, Lane was covered like a blanket but Moss threw the pass just high enough for Lane to catch it and the d-back couldn't knock it away. Moss is the real deal guys. That's why 5 star Nelson is in the portal. I don't see anyone in the portal that I would want over Moss and he is HOME GROWN, a USC kid born and bred and a Bishop Allemany So Cal kid to boot.

Java

Dec 28, 2023

First half went like this.

USC 3 and out

L. 8 plays. 75 yards. Each for about 8-9 yards. Knife through butter. 7-0

USC nice drive lynch misses easy fg

L first play strip sack recovery USC

Moss then hits Washington on a little sucker screen and Washington weaves through cones er tacklers for 15 yards. Td Like end of first quarter

L 3 and out blocked punt recovered on twenty

USC moss hits Washington again in tight space. Td. 14-0 early second

L punts.

USC and moss again. Nice drive 7 min left 21-7

L drives field and scores to make it 21-14

Usc gets ball back with 1:46 and runs the fastest O I've seen at usc. No huddle no subs. No sideline looks. No signals. Like. Line up snap and go. So fast. Went about 40 yards in a minute and with about 25 second left moss throws a long jump ball if I recall that lane muscles for the catch and td.

28-14 halftime. It was pretty exhilarating

pistonslap

Dec 28, 2023

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That tempo drive right before halftime was a thing of beauty and something I thought we would see more of from LR's offense once he got here.

tdaniels

Dec 28, 2023

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So it sounds like SC was gifted to a couple of short fields which game scores to go up early. They didn't happen much for them during the regular season that I can recall I recall their defense put in the offense and bad positions more often than not thank God that didn't go that way the same and thank God that's how they executed when they had to. Brakes like this part of football, but the brakes fell the other way during the regular season, and SC paid the price for it because they had a shitty defense and perhaps, as you mentioned the quarterback that originally tried to take too much on his shoulders to help them win like he did the year before And unfortunately the head coach didn't rain that in but I don't think you put it on this kid I think it was a matter of a lot of things adding up together that caused the season to turn out the way it did

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Java

Dec 29, 2023

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I thnk if you saw the plays you'd think they weren't exactly gifts. Both were tremendous plays. Like the last hit and fumble. Pretty violent

tdaniels

Dec 28, 2023

And if CW freelanced so much and cost us games, shouldn't reigning that in fall on the coach, not the kid? But when you have a once in a generation talent, as scouts have called CW, who carried his team to 11 wins and a Heisman, do you forgive the coach for being human?

firenze5

Dec 29, 2023

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The difference between this year and last year was in 2022 we were a plus 22 in turnovers. I don't think we lost a fumble all year. This year we returned to mean and we're about even. Some people blame CW for too much free lancing but his stats were about the same as the Heisman year. Riley didn't get stupid in one year. In 2022 he took an average roster and won a Heisman and 11 games with the turnover advantage. Without the turnovers, USC in 2022 is 7-7, not 11-3. I will take the last two years and the Heisman with no regrets. The fire Riley fanatics are nutsy cuckoo.

JMHO

tdaniels

Dec 29, 2023

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Agree 100%

tdaniels

Dec 28, 2023

And God love Miller Moss just trying to put this all in perspective

MLK Blvd

Dec 28, 2023

usc had way more than their share of breaks (read turnovers) go their way last year. Other than the typical biased officiating at Utah and an untimely injury in the ccg, usc was very lucky last year. And their record reflected that.]

Expecting that trend to continue this season wasn't going to happen, so this year was probably provided a more accurate read on USC's talent and quality of their coaching. Both leave a lot to be desired.

firenze5

Dec 29, 2023

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Will you let us know who you are and stop hiding between the unknown member moniker. If you are willing to embarrass yourself with silly statements we should know who you are.

tdaniels

Dec 29, 2023

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Untrue on the turnovers.

tdaniels

Dec 29, 2023

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Well said