Ryan Day , 56-8, two conf ships, B1G COY, 4 playoff appearances
Riley 74-18, 4 conference championships, 3 play off appearances, 3Heisman winners, Broyles award winner, AP COY, Big 12 COY, 3 #1 overall nfl draft picks
Ummm...okay. Not that I am arguing some positions on that list but what is also important is the fit. Names like Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley and James Franklin have had simply better talent where they were at. Would these same coaches do better than typical history at other programs that don't have that level of talent?
UW is one that has never attracted top talent like those have had. From a realistic POV, Luke Fickell, Johnathon Smith and Matt Rhule would be better fits at UW than those forementioned. Luke Fickell will not leave the upper midwest region, don't know much about Matt Rhule's culture, but I have said it before, if it comes to that, Johnathon Smith will be UW's next coach (unless he doesn't have success at MSU).
Bullish on Oregon’s chances to “make the playoffs”? Lol, if Ore doesn’t make the playoffs, Lanning should receive a 25-life prison sentence. Clay Helton could make the playoffs with that roster (seriously).
Look, teams with an ‘upward trajectory’ are backed by NIL. Player development is second, and behind by some margin. That’s it. It’s not rocket science. You ducks think it has something to do with your uniforms? 🤣
the f ups at USC is still working out the kinks on NIL. If they do, then they’ll be ok. If they don’t, the program is screwed. 1+2= 3.14,,, simple.
I’m gonna save that silly quote of yours, if that’s ok with you, Duck…. “King of the B1G” 😂
Clay Helton?? You do realize Clay Helton signed classes in his first 4 recruiting seasons that ranked higher than Oregon's during Lanning's time here:
2nd
10th
4th
4th
Compared to Lanning signing classes in his first 2.5 seasons that ranked:
13th
9th
3rd (currently)
C'mon, Brad - you have to be smarter than this? Please tell me you are: "Helton could make the playoffs with Oregon's roster"..... 🙄? Fact is he couldn't do it with a BETTER roster....😆
And btw, yes feel free to quote me on anything going forward if you'd like, free rein to do so.
Only make sure I actually wrote it...not sure if I ever said Oregon was "king" of anything....lol I believe that term is reserved for blue bloods specifically.... 🙂
Oregon never will be, nor IMO would we ever WANT to be, a blue blood.
Looking forward to seeing what Deboer can do at Alabama. Is he as good as many suspect? Or will he become Mike Shula Part Two following in the footsteps of Saban? Will be fascinating to see if he can keep what Saban started...
IMO Smith is way overrated and sitting with a losing record at 34-35 as a HC all time doesn't do much for me, not sure why it does much for others simply because of one 10-3 season.
No question Dans ranking is based on potential and momentum. I don’t get bent out of shape when some say he hasn’t accomplished anything yet. But he does seem like he’s on a trajectory to be special.
Coaching lists are tough. You could argue Fickel and Smith are as good of coaches as Day and Riley based on special seasons they had at Cinnicnatti and OSU and the talent level they were coaching vs the elite talent at Ohio St and OU.
Ohio State was looking to fire Ryan Day just last year, and the year before. sc
Ummm...okay. Not that I am arguing some positions on that list but what is also important is the fit. Names like Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley and James Franklin have had simply better talent where they were at. Would these same coaches do better than typical history at other programs that don't have that level of talent?
UW is one that has never attracted top talent like those have had. From a realistic POV, Luke Fickell, Johnathon Smith and Matt Rhule would be better fits at UW than those forementioned. Luke Fickell will not leave the upper midwest region, don't know much about Matt Rhule's culture, but I have said it before, if it comes to that, Johnathon Smith will be UW's next coach (unless he doesn't have success at MSU).
LADuck: “Lanning > DeBoer”
Josh Pate from 247 is talking to you here, Mr. BigBallss (along with many of your Trojan friends).
Please listen very carefully to an impartial observer.... 😎