Speaking of d gurus

Vandermade was great, but with Leinart, Groots, Vandermade, yuo realize you're going back 20 years to find guys who had success from that school at the neexct level. A school that produces like 5-6 5 stars a yewar?

Can't speak of the years they played but a few MD players that made it to the NFL: Larry Williams, Amon ra St Brown, Curtis Robinson, Niko Remigio, Quinton Lake, Austin Faoliu, Thomas Duarte, Colt Brennan, Matt Barkley

Fair point. Very. That is a long time ago. Just saying there is a "history" of them panning out. But yeah recent history is pretty telling as the best ones left Sark & Hugs era.